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Richard Flyer's avatar

I appreciate the care and seriousness with which The Christ Meme seeks to recover what was lost beneath centuries of empire, coercion, and institutional distortion. I share the conviction that Christ was buried under Christendom—and that any honest retrieval must reckon with colonial violence, patriarchy, and the misuse of theology as a technology of control.

Where I part ways is not in the diagnosis, but in the remedy.

My lifelong work has been shaped by a journey not to replace Christ with a non-dual abstraction, but to live in fidelity to the living Christ as the ontological source of love, order, and communion. That distinction matters to me personally. My life has been shaped by direct encounters with Jesus Christ—experiences I did not seek and could not dismiss—and much of my work since then has been an attempt to translate that encounter into lived form through local resilience, relational economies, and durable community.

What more than forty years of community work has taught me—often the hard way—is that unity does not emerge by sidelining or transcending religious commitments, including my own. I had to confront and move beyond my own post- and anti-religious assumptions to hold communities together. Efforts to neutralize or abstract deeply held faith commitments consistently narrowed participation rather than expanded it. Shared life required humility, translation, and fidelity—not transcendence of belief. Those lessons form the practical heart of the work I now share with others who want to build a durable, inclusive community.

When Christ is reduced—however reverently—to a symbolic carrier of awakening or a tool for civilizational repair, something essential is lost: Christ’s irreducible reality as more than metaphor, psychology, or a culturally useful key.

For me, the task is not to dissolve Christ into a universalized spirituality, but to distinguish Christ from empire without dissolving Christ into abstraction. The incarnation is not a dispensable layer over a deeper non-dual truth; it is the shock at the center of the Christian claim—that love is not merely a principle we awaken to, but a reality that meets us, calls us, and invites us into communion.

I’ve also noticed a broader pattern worth naming. Within “metamodern” Christianity, there is a recurring impulse to construct a post-Christian or meta-Christian version of the faith in order to remain intelligible or therapeutically effective. I understand the motivation. But this move quietly creates a new metaphysical bubble—new boundaries, new insiders and outsiders—and risks reproducing the very separation it hopes to heal.

There is a civic consequence here that matters. You write that you’re prepared to offend both camps because the stakes are too high for politeness. I understand the urgency. But the real question for community-building is not whether people are offended—it’s whether potential allies are being drawn into shared work or excluded by metaphysical framing they cannot inhabit.

A post-Christian reinterpretation of Christ may feel expansive to some, but it stands in tension with what most Christians actually believe and, in practice, narrows the space of shared meaning where cooperation becomes possible.

I want to be clear about my intent here. I want to see your work—and efforts like Open Civics—actually succeed beyond a narrow circle. My concern is that under the current metaphysical framing, that work risks being confined to a relatively small, self-selecting bubble. I’m naming this not as a critic, but as someone who cares about its civic potential and is reaching out as a brother who wants to see it flourish in the widest possible community.

I don’t believe Christianity must be abandoned to heal the wounds it helped create. Nor do I believe it can be redeemed by stripping it of its metaphysical claims. What’s needed is retrieval rather than replacement: a return to Christ as living presence, not symbolic medicine—one who confronts empire precisely because he is not reducible to it, and who grounds regenerative culture not in self-remembering alone, but in received and practiced love.

That is the line I am trying to hold.

Christian Rether's avatar

Have you ever read something so brilliant and insightful that it gives you both frustration that you didn’t write it and utter joy that someone did? This is it. 😂

Thank you! Keep writing. ❤️🙏

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